3,489. Reaction score. 4,369. Jan 28, 2021. #1. I recently purchased a Numrich Arms Swivel Barrel rifle (.45). I want to strip finish and brown it. My question is about disassembling the gun. The barrels are held onto the frame by a knurled bolt (?) that uses an allen wrench.Soak a couple of cotton floor mop strands in a potassium nitrate solution (black powder will work). Clamp one in the cocked jaws of your flintlock cock, light the end of it, and open the frizzen to expose your priming powder. Pull the trigger. Satisfaction guaranteed, and you just took off another 100 years!My small tree critters have always been dropped with a .32 or .36, and they excel on small game. With a .40 all shots need to be at the head/neck area even with very light loads. Mid-body hits might be okay, you'll just have to see. Test the loads at 25 yards, that's the average range for shots in the squirrel woods.Ok I got a good old cva st.louis hawken in 54. I used to hunt elk with it. The load I used was 90 grains of rs and a cast 380 grain real bullet.do to bad neck and back I can no longer shoot this load. So I was thinking using it on deer with a round ball. Most shots at black tail deer here or...i've been shooting the pietta remmington 1858 new army revolver since 2009 and still use the pietta nipples that came with the revolver and remmington #10 caps. never had a misfire or cap jam and use the grease over ball so far. up to a few years ago i shot the hornady 451 balls and never had any issues. read that the .454's were better so i bought …Apr 20, 2017. #2. Russ Hamm died years ago. His early locks were OK, his later locks were POS. You would have to check with Chambers to see if they had a suitable replacement. Russ worked 3rd shift at a GM plant. Whatever metal the plant was casting is what he used. I built a flintlock using a Russ Hamm lock.10. May 8, 2008. #2. The "Third Generation/Signature Series" was actually assembled by Henry Arms, and as far as I'm concered the quality is not even close to the 2nd generation models. I've heard two stories on the 2nd generation: parts made by Uberti & assembled by Colt, and some say assembled by Henry Arms.Nov 26, 2005 · The photos below show one of the famous mahogany stocked rifles by Haines. The rifle I am using for inspiration is #81 shown in RCA vol 1. It is maple stocked but the patch box and carving are very similar to the mahogany stocked rifles. Isaac Haines was arguably the best carver of all the great long rifle makers. I have a 1861 Springfield that has an exceptionally stuck minie ball. Like it's bad. I tried blasting it out atleast 10 times it hasn't moved. I tried the grease gun but the grease went around the minie so that didn't work. I broke two ball pullers of on the ball, JB welded the last puller into...69 Cal. I’m working on a TOW Brown Bess Kit, which according to Jess Melot the owner of the rifle shoppe, the 1746 Wilets kit was a kit he designed 30 years ago for CD Jarnigan Co. That was copied over by Track of the Wolf. On a difficultly level, I can’t really say much because its my first kit build.Clothing, Cookware, Crafts For Sale/Wanted/Trade. Reenactment clothing, fabric, patterns, cookware and craft finished products and supplies. No commercial sales. You must have 15 posts AND be a member …This is the best feeling | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the ...Researchers have been asking this question for almost a century and now we're a little closer to the answer. Advertisement It might seem like geologists are just studying a bunch o...Oct 19, 2023. #3. 4' stick of 4" SCH-40 PVC with a strip of something wrapped around it like a barber pole. Pull it through a plywood plate with a hole and notch guide cut in it. Couple 2x4s, some screws, a small stick of round bar, some clamps, and a cutter head that I'll machine.The Traditions PA Pellet Flintlock has a 26" barrel with a 1 in 48 twist and a removeable breech plug. Overall length is 45" It has a half stock and is similar in style to a GPR or Hawken. The Pennsylvania Rifle (no-pellets) is a traditional longrifle with the slow twist. Barrel is 40.33,410. Reaction score. 8,508. Location. Phoenix, AZ. Feb 26, 2019. #2. A company that called itself Ultra-Hi tried getting into the black powder muzzleloading game back in the 1970's by importing low cost guns. I'm …Apple recently announced a new target of using 100% recycled cobalt in all Apple-designed batteries by the year 2025. Apple recently announced a new target of using 100% recycled c...2,155. Location. SE CT. Mar 28, 2016. #1. Gentleman, I recently acquired, as partial payment for work completed, an Austin & Halleck 50 caliber "mountain rifle" flint lock. It has a 32" browned barrel with 1:66 twist barrel and a beautiful maple stock. It does not appear to have been fired much, as the bore is very clean and the frizzen shows ...Hunt Talk is a website for hunting enthusiasts to share tips, stories, and questions. The Muzzleloaders forum is a section for discussing muzzleloader equipment, loads, and hunting experiences. However, it does not match the query muzzleloadingforum.com, which is a different website.Jun 24, 2023 · Oct 19, 2023. #3. 4' stick of 4" SCH-40 PVC with a strip of something wrapped around it like a barber pole. Pull it through a plywood plate with a hole and notch guide cut in it. Couple 2x4s, some screws, a small stick of round bar, some clamps, and a cutter head that I'll machine. May 25, 2023. #1. I went to the library. Finally my copy of William brickbats book arrived. After reading through it I am a little discouraged. I was hoping I would be able to make a nice double barrel shotgun with some modern barrel blanks, but this seems to be a daunting task, to say the least. The book suggests finding old Damascus barrels ...I did get a chance to physically hold a Pedersoli Blue Ridge in a 50 caliber, flintlock, this past Saturday. It was a very used one, at a local gun shop and priced within $70 of a new one. My second choice would be a Lyman Great Plains rifle, in a 50 caliber, percussion....but I'd prefer the long rifle.Feb 9, 2015 · 40 Cal. There are many variables to consider when working up a load for any muzzleloading rifle. Bore size, rare of twist, patching material for round ball, powder type, lube for your bullet/patches. all of these things will affect accuracy and the type of powder you use and the best charge to use. Apr 6, 2024 ... I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get. Sign up here: https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/account/upgrades.The Gun Builder's Bench | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the ...Using the 12 ga., originals or a single barrel in line trap gun, I have used a 1 and an 18th shot dipper for both powder and shot. I have used black powder and substitutes. If you can not get Mike;s over powder wads use two over shot wads over the powder, half a cushion was, lubed or not, shot and an over powder wad.Anyway, the common ramrods of the 18th c. civilian guns would be a tapered wood rod with or without a sheet iron tip on the entry end and a wide front end of bare wood to seat the load. Preferably concaved a tad bit for a ball if wanted. Ideally, the steel tip should not have contact with the bore walls anyway.A key to the formula is to draw a line along the comb and it should pass right through the tumbler screw for the flint cock and just under the pan. That formula is also true for Brown Bess muskets. Moreover, the angle of the butt plate is almost perpendicular to the comb line.Original Antique Firearms | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the ...9,020. Location. New England. Nov 8, 2022. #2. Yes it would be a custom job to get that small of a smoothbore barrel. Also I think you're on to something interesting. Our brother "Britsmoothy" uses a .45 smoothbore to great effect. He may have a suggestion about a smooth small caliber barrel.Looking at their data, there is no doubt that shortening the barrel reduces the muzzle velocity . For instance, looking at the data for the 94 grain powder charge, the largest that was tested thru the entire 40 to 20 length barrel the velocity dropped from 2260 fps to 1976 fps. and.NorCal | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.Georgia. Nov 25, 2004. #3. Yes, I have put fiber optic sights on a GPR. The ones from RMC work great and are a cinch to install. I liked them so well that I custom fitted a set to my Isacc Haines flintlock for deer hunting.Corn meal - At our last muzzle loading trap shoot one said he was using corn meal instead of cushion wads. It seemed to work. I saw somebody use corn meal instead of wadding in their flintlock shotgun on YouTube. He claimed it made the groups 50% better.Location. Andover, VT. Aug 25, 2012. #2. Nitric acid is technically aquafortis, for sure, but the solution folks use to stain rifles is saturated with iron. Make the 10% or up to 25% solution, add iron shavings or small nails, let it cook uncovered until it is done consuming iron. Filter through a coffee filter, etc, and use this to stain maple.Canada | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.Shiloh Sharps 1863 infantry rifle with .535” ball at 50 yards. Loaded loose 2fg powder after lightly breech seating the ball and CCI musket caps. After more then a dozen shots I adjusted the sight for the last two in the bullseye. 383D6502-C1B1-43A3-8F7B-FFEC3DAC92E5 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr.Colorado. Feb 22, 2006. #7. It's my understanding that Jack farmed out some of the work on these rifles. I personally know a gunsmith who did some of the work. But, Jack supervised and still has his name, and reputation, involved. I wouldn't hesitate one minute to own one of the West Virginia University rifles.Jun 6, 2008. #11. I received a box of Hornady Great Plains bullets in .58 caliber with a lightly used .58 cal Zouave. When I got to the range I wiped the bore, poured 60 grains of Pyrodex RS down the hole and started the pre lubed bullet. It got about 12 inches down the bore and stopped.I bought a barrel with a factory drum that was sloppy. I went to hardware store, bought a larger tap and matching drill bit, and just drilled the old threads out with an electric drill, going slowly. Then tapped to new size. Came out fine. Cost about $12 and I still have the tools.Using the 12 ga., originals or a single barrel in line trap gun, I have used a 1 and an 18th shot dipper for both powder and shot. I have used black powder and substitutes. If you can not get Mike;s over powder wads use two over shot wads over the powder, half a cushion was, lubed or not, shot and an over powder wad.May 8, 2023. #1. After reading the "Terms and Rules" at the bottom of this page I thought I had an understanding of this forum. Because of this there was a discussion in the Unmentionables post where there was a difference of opinion between myself and a couple other members. Apparently there was a thread by Zonie back in 2018 in the "Forum ...Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.East of the Kaskaskia River in Illinois Country. Sep 15, 2022. #10. Brownells has a method of using stainless steel wool wrapped around a bore brush soaked in Kroil. Scrub the bore thoroughly and clean out the mess. The method does not remove pitting, even so it typically makes for a very shootable barrel.Jun 6, 2008. #11. I received a box of Hornady Great Plains bullets in .58 caliber with a lightly used .58 cal Zouave. When I got to the range I wiped the bore, poured 60 grains of Pyrodex RS down the hole and started the pre lubed bullet. It got about 12 inches down the bore and stopped.I have my Walkers modified by Master Black Powder Gunsmith Dykes Reber of the muzzleloadershop.com and Master Revolver Tunner Mike Brackett of goonsgunworks.com. Master BP Gunsmith Dykes Reber puts on Taller Front Sight, an 1860 Loading Lever Latch and Post, Cuts the Forcing Cone, Permanently Pins the Arbor Pin with a Threaded Allen Screw with Lock Tight Red, Opens Up the Loading Port, Reams ...I tried blasting it out atleast 10 times it hasn’t moved. I tried the grease gun but the grease went around the minie so that didn’t work. I broke two ball pullers of on the ball, JB welded the last puller into my rod and it still stripped the puller. I took it to a gunsmith with air and pullers and he couldn’t budge it.Reaction score. 6,321. Location. Colorado. Mar 23, 2022. #7. If you are going to replace the breech plug in a TC barrel then you will need a threading specific to a TC barrel. I don't recall the exact threads but someone will and will post it here. That's one of the good things about this forum.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Apr 19, 2023. #1. I have a recently purchased new, Woodsman .50 cal percussion rifle. Have fired approximately 40 rds so far with no problems at all. Wipe between shots etc. It cut patches at first but 0000 steel wool took care of that. In my reading I see that many folks look down on the Traditions rifles in general.216. Mar 11, 2022. #1. Hello all. Thought maybe I would share a few pictures of an Underhammer that I've been working on this past winter. The gun was finished basically to in "the white" by my gunsmith. The barrel is a 32" GM LRH 50 cal 1-28 twist. The action is from Taylor Machine.40 Cal. This is a Numrich Arms Swivel Breech rifle in .45. Build by Hopkins and Allen in early 70s. I bought this rifle for a much grander project. I was planning to make wooden side panels for barrels and reset ramrod pipes. Stock had damage to toe, that I repaired, as well as a cracked buttplate. Had to take a much larger one and refit it.The patent breech in percussion guns is safer and easier to clean. Drum and nipple breeches are manure from several perspectives. Most modern patent breeches on the factory made guns are designed to be cheap to make and install. I believe the Nock antechamber breech gives better velocity but experience is limited.Jul 31, 2022. #2. The T/C PA Hunter is a good rifle. I have both the flint and percussion. I think the 450-550 price range is more like a value. However, the lock needs attention as the geometry of the original T/C can be improved for more reliable performance. I sent mine out to Cabin Creek Muzzleloaders to be re-worked.10. May 8, 2008. #2. The "Third Generation/Signature Series" was actually assembled by Henry Arms, and as far as I'm concered the quality is not even close to the 2nd generation models. I've heard two stories on the 2nd generation: parts made by Uberti & assembled by Colt, and some say assembled by Henry Arms.There was an unfired 54 caliber Flintlock Trade Rifle marked JP Henry. I got confused. At first, I thought it was a factory copy. I forgot that the original gun would have been JJ Henry. A quick internet search came up with Jim Searles' JP Gunstocks company out of Las Vegas, NV. I met Jim a couple of times at Rendezvous in Southern California.Jan 3, 2024. #1. Traditions .50 Kentucky rifle percussion kit. It's not all fancy schmantzy, but I've wanted to build this particular rifle since the mid 80's. Had the .45 Cal CVA kit of the same type when I was in the Marines, but didn't have the tools nor the smarts at the time to build it. M.Researchers have been asking this question for almost a century and now we're a little closer to the answer. Advertisement It might seem like geologists are just studying a bunch o...That bullet had a Muzzle Velocity of 1058 and 1407 ft/lb of energy. A patched .570 diameter roundball with an 80 grain load of GOEX 2Fg had a breech pressure of 5,200 psi and a muzzle velocity of 1288. Upping the roundballs powder load to 120 grains raised the breech pressure to 7,900 psi with a MV of 1568 fps.7,789. Nov 21, 2023. #1. Any other subscribers to Muzzleloader magazine that haven't gotten the Nov/Dec issue yet? I know various things may delay production of a specialty magazine, but just wondered as it's getting to the end of Nov. soon. My local newsstand still has the Sep/Oct issue on display, also.I try to explain it like this. The tried-and-true 45/70. 45 cal. lead bullet pushed by 70 gr. black powder. With muzzle energy of more than 1,600 foot-pounds, the 405 grain FP bullet hit a distance of 200 yards and flew at 1,330 feet per second. This bullet easily killed bears, moose, and bison.40 Cal. This is a Numrich Arms Swivel Breech rifle in .45. Build by Hopkins and Allen in early 70s. I bought this rifle for a much grander project. I was planning to make wooden side panels for barrels and reset ramrod pipes. Stock had damage to toe, that I repaired, as well as a cracked buttplate. Had to take a much larger one and refit it.209 Guests, 3 Users Users active in past 15 minutes: Rufus, The Stumbler, BruceH. Most Online Today: 316.Most Online Ever: 1042 (February 21, 2023, 06:14:54 AM)Tyrone , Pa. 16686. Apr 6, 2024. #13,588. Sorta good news for a friend today. Been trying to clean the rust out of his neglected Spanish made longrifle barrel. Started soaking , and polishing , and soaking and polishing the bore w/ 00 steel wool on a bronze bore brush using Clenzoil penetrating oil spray.Hi, I will occasionally post photos and descriptions of my work on a Chambers Little Fella's rifle kit I am building for Rifleman1776. Frank wants a small light rifle and this kit should fill the bill. Despite building >60 muzzleloaders over the years, I've only built one kit gun. That was a Navy Arms 1863 Springfield musket.The builder of my rifle made a clean kill at 90 yards with 70 grains 3f in a .54. I looked up the load in the Lyman Black Powder Handbook and Loading Manual; 70 grains 3f Goex, .535 ball. muzzle energy - 963 ft lb. 100 yards - 456 ft lb. 90 grains 3f Goex, .535 ball. muzzle energy - 1111 ft lb. 100 yards - 487 ft lb.Muzzleloader Rifles, Muzzleloader Pistols & Muzzleloader Supplies - #1 Source for Muzzleloaders. Black Powder Rifles, Pistols & Black Powder Kits. Shop all the top muzzleloader brands like CVA, Traditions, Thompson/Center, Lyman, Investarm & More.Here, in Henry's case he has a Pedersoli Frontier rifle. This is an advantage in that the Pedersoli is a factory made rifle and Pedersoli has a recommendation of a 0.440" ball and 0.015" thick patches. Patch lubricant can be a variety of mixes or store bought concoctions. 60 to 79 grains, black powder volume measure should be good for that ...The bullet is a 507 grain, with a single wrap 20# paper patch. The bullet goes down with a small amount of pressure, but not very much. I was shooting at 100 yards with the first shot 2" from the group with the other 4 shots being in a 1 1/4" group. This is the very best I have been able to shoot with this gun.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Nov 11, 2011 · Jan 8, 2023. #1. Making a Powder Horn, Part 2- Scrimshaw. Today I have the borders all done and ready to do my panels and more. After five hours though, it was time to quit for the day. Decorating a Powder Horn is really an individual's own choice. The first of which was retired on 16 June, while the last will head to retirement this month. Qantas plans to retire the last of its two Boeing 747s this month. As first reported b...Well I think I got an easy quick fix that takes 0 skill and ends in a perfect fit. Here it is. #2.Drill 5/32 hole completely through center of arbor housing. #3.Put release agent on arbor ,and everywhere on outside of barrel that could possibly get over flow compound on it.8,508. Location. Phoenix, AZ. Oct 9, 2008. #4. The .44 cal Kentuckian Flintlock was my first muzzleloading rifle. I bought it in 1972 (give or take a year). It was a well made Italian rifle and as I recall its lock was a good sparker. I sold it about 5 years ago to a guy who wanted to hang it on his wall.Sep 4, 2022. #5. I got two Tradition Deer Hunters, both in .50 caliber. 60 grains (Pyro P or Real Black 3fff) has been my standard load for decades, using a PRB or the Buffalo Ball-et, which I have a good supply of. Both those loads impact the same place in my guns, as does the T/C 270 gr. Maxi Hunter.1,296. Reaction score. 530. Location. Coudersport, PA. Jun 1, 2013. #1. I saw a local listing for a .50 caliber flintlock Armsport Kentuckian with a picture and what would appear to be a pretty fair price. I'm not terribly interested in the gun as it is but would consider tearing it apart and using the parts for another build if they were ...882. Reaction score. 13. Jan 28, 2005. #1. A few days back I did a spread sheet on the ballistic performance of the .50 cal round ball. I got several PM, and a few eMail, asking about the .54 round ball. Well, for all those who asked, and anyone else who may be interested, I ran a program on the .54 Round ball using the following parameters.Kibler Fowler Update | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account ...Ok, so this pandemic thing finally gave me the time to finish out the CVA 45 cal percussion Kentucky Pistol kit I picked up a while ago. While I have a number of guns, this is my first black powder kit and before I screw something up firing it, I thought it would be prudent to post on here for some advice.Reaction score. 696. Location. north of Stl Mo. Feb 11, 2019. #3. .540 bore smooth rifle @ 25 yds. 65 gr. fffg and 75 grains 5's and 6's mixed using skychiefs load as a base fiber wad over powder and 1/2" cushion wad on top of shot all lubed with olive oil. Min. ga. for turkey in Mo. is .410.The Apple Store website is down, and purchases are not available on Monday morning. Here's why. By clicking "TRY IT", I agree to receive newsletters and promotions from Money and i...Kevin Houlihan said: There’s a ton of room for the rear lock bolt. The bolt will screw into the bolster to the rear of the screw that attaches the bolster to the plate. Next drill your front lock bolt so it will screw into the lock plate in front of the main spring. Be sure to miss the barrel and the ramrod groove.Here, in Henry's case he has a Pedersoli Frontier rifle. This is an advantage in that the Pedersoli is a factory made rifle and Pedersoli has a recommendation of a 0.440" ball and 0.015" thick patches. Patch lubricant can be a variety of mixes or store bought concoctions. 60 to 79 grains, black powder volume measure should be good for that ...May 6, 2014. Messages. 16,883. Reaction score. 15,283. Jan 10, 2015. #5. "Bedding Compound" AKA "Glass Bedding" AKA "Epoxy Bedding" are all terms to describe using some kind of epoxy to fill up voids, offer a better fit of parts (like the tang and breech to a stock) or even repair broken/cracked stocks.
I bought a barrel with a factory drum that was sloppy. I went to hardware store, bought a larger tap and matching drill bit, and just drilled the old threads out with an electric drill, going slowly. Then tapped to new size. Came out fine. Cost about $12 and I still have the tools.. Sexy young teenage
Jul 19, 2022. #1. Just found out on another forum that Pedersoli is planning on producing a copy of the Baker rifle.According to the poster on the other forum he had heard rumours that Pedersoli had purchased a couple of original Baker rifles for templates.When he contacted Pedersoli they confirmed they will bemaking them … Join the online community of muzzleloader enthusiasts and share your experiences, tips, questions and photos. Browse the latest posts on topics such as wet weather tips, bullet stability, flintlocks, percussion caps, and more. In other words, a tablespoon of stain to a tablespoon of alcohol. With this thinned stain, use a small, fine hair paint brush about 3/4" to 1" wide and paint the stain onto the wood. Apply the stain "with the grain". Try not to overlap the strokes but also try no cover all of the wood so there are no unstained places.Obsidian is a volcanic glass. It tends to shatter like glass. While flint, agate, etc are 7 on Moh's hardness scale, obsidian is only 5. BTW stainless steel is also around 5 on the same scale. A good frizzen may actually be harder than obsidian. When I was studying this, we used a stainless steel watch back to test this.Houston Tx area | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...Join the discussion on muzzleloading topics, such as guns, bullets, powders, primers, and hunting tips. Browse the latest posts from members of the HuntingPA.com forum, or start your own thread.8. Mar 14, 2009. #12. In match shooting the 5 rounds are placed in the 10 Ring off hand 5 times. I think with an import production gun off of a rest 4" to 6" on a standard Black Powder 100 Yd. target would be Ok for 3 Rd. groups. This of course may translate to 8" to 12" or more in a hunting situation.Nov 5, 2011. #8. As mentioned the underhammer was used primarily for target rifles and since hunting was 95% of what guns were used for that explains the scarcity of that design. For hunting they do have a drawback. To cock an underhammer one must take the shooting hand entirely off the grip and reach forward to the hammer.Clothing, Cookware, Crafts For Sale/Wanted/Trade. Reenactment clothing, fabric, patterns, cookware and craft finished products and supplies. No commercial sales. You must have 15 posts AND be a member for 30 days OR be a Supporting Member to post here.23. Location. Upstate NY. Dec 23, 2012. #6. I used 80 gr. 2F with a t/c 370gr. maxi ball was a very accurate load out of all my 50 cal. t/c muzzleloaders with a 1:48 twist. A 320 gr. t/c maxi ball worked well also. Never had much luck with accuracy with the t/c maxi hunters. The maxi balls have great penetration.The bullet is a 507 grain, with a single wrap 20# paper patch. The bullet goes down with a small amount of pressure, but not very much. I was shooting at 100 yards with the first shot 2" from the group with the other 4 shots being in a 1 1/4" group. This is the very best I have been able to shoot with this gun.Reaction score. 45. Dec 19, 2012. #15. Your rifle is indeed one of Navy Arm's Hawken "Hunter" in .58 caliber. The guns had a 1:60" twist, with a shallow .003" to .005" depth, and were specifically built to take big powder charges.Flintlock Rifles | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...Weighs just over 8lbs, so it's quite handy for a double barrel gun. Barrel swivel detents are nice and solid. Seems in decent shape overall. These are fairly uncommon so if you're thinking about playing with a swivel breech this is about as affordable as it gets. $550 Shipping Included. Last edited: Oct 24, 2021.Reaction score. 9,916. Location. Florence Alabama. Feb 22, 2024. #10. I have ordered a lot of B/P from Powder Inc. in the past, all went smoothly. When the shortage hit, I decided to round out my stock with about 10 more # if I could find any Goex. Everyone was sold out except for Crater Fireworks..